April 24, 2015/ / ARTICLES/ Comments: 94


In the backlit screen of my computer, the cropped bust of a man, slightly stubbled, red crewneck collar showing beneath the undone buttons of his dress shirt, hovers above the text “How to Get Big on Youtube – AndrewSchrock.”

Press play and his spiel begins: “What’s up guys,” Andy exclaims (not asks) to the wayward viewer. “I’m here to give you tips on how to grow and get subscribers and views here on Youtube!” His advice in this realm should be respected, for he’s a rare example of someone who has managed to create a sustainable career video blogging. Video blogging about our favorite toy, the skateboard.

Andy Schrock’s YouTube channel has over 500,000 subscribers. That means more than half-a-million people get a notification every time Andy posts a video, something he does daily. It’s difficult to gauge exactly how much he, or any Youtube content creator, is making off of these videos – he was vague when pressed for dollar amounts, and YouTube’s partnership program through which ad revenue is shared between platform and person is notoriously convoluted – but a conservative estimate puts videos with a pre-roll advertisement quoted at making around $2 per every 1000 views.

So take the video “Assembling a New Skateboard – AndySchrock” as an example. As of this writing it has around 100,000 views, meaning that at the $2/1000 view rate Andy would pull in $200. That may not seem like much, but with daily uploads these numbers add up quickly. If Andy’s videos average around 60,000 views and he posts one every day, he’s made $840 that week off YouTube ads alone.

Andy Schrock, YouTube star.

Andy Schrock, YouTube star.

The line between the virtual and the tangible is as thin and porous as a sheet of MOB griptape. That video of Andy setting up a new skateboard also doubles as an extended advertisement for several hard goods companies he owns: ReVive decks, FORCE wheels, and AM Grip (synergy!).

Though Andy informed me through email that he isn’t “rich or anything,” he has managed to carve out a comfortable living (albeit in Cincinnati) for him and his family, an impressive feat for any independent business owner, especially one in today’s turbulent skateboarding economy. (If you’d rather measure “success” in sex instead of dollars then I even heard that his now wife and the mother of his child first approached Andy because she recognized him from YouTube, so his Internet fame’s gotten him laid at least once.)

This sort of conventionally un-cool success through Youtube will naturally infuriate skateboarding’s “core”. A thread on SLAP’s forum titled “Hate on Youtube pros” demonstrates exactly that. In it, one poster rhetorically asks if it’s even possible to be a YouTube skater and not be “a fucking massive kook.” To which he immediately answers, “I think not.” Another commenter comes to a disheartening conclusion: “It’s a crazy world we live in folks,” he writes, “while Alien Workshop closes shop, ReVive skateboards are selling out and running their own warehouse and skatepark.”

Andy filming for his YouTube channel.

Andy Schrock filming for his YouTube channel.

A Harvard professor of Business, Clayton Christensen, describes a disruptor as something that “displaces an existing market, industry, or technology and produces something new and more efficient and worthwhile. It is at once destructive and creative.” As new forms of exploiting sharing skateboarding surface through the Net, traditions are naturally upended. The old must make way for the new.

Beginner skaters have historically been initiated and educated by the generation of skaters that preceded them. These dinosaurs, found lurking at the local skate shop or troweling the neighborhood DIY, are the linkages to old 411VM tapes and half-remembered Big Brother interviews. They give historical context and a communal experience to skateboarding.

”Our compass, now a scrolling sidebar of suggested videos, feels as if it’s magnetized towards the commercialization of skateboarding.”

It’d be an understatement to say that the Internet’s changed this. These opinionated skate elders remain, but they’ve been overshadowed by our access to the infinite skateboard documentation available on YouTube. It’s easy to get lost in the options if you don’t know where to begin.

It’s as if we’ve been suddenly dropped into the ocean without a rudder, and our compass, now a scrolling sidebar of suggested videos, feels as if it’s magnetized towards the commercialization of skateboarding. Youtube, the great disruptor of our culture, must be analyzed and understood so that we can regain our bearings.

The most obvious effect YouTube has had on this new generation of skaters is an explosion of skill and an expansion of what is now considered possible on a skateboard. Progression is aided in great part through exposure. Unless you’re Rodney Mullen, tricks aren’t so much invented as they are mimicked and improved upon – done faster and higher, flipped into and out of.

In the past, physical locations have generally been the center of such progression — EMB, the World Industries Park, LOVE Park, MACBA – and if you lived far away from these hubs, you had to eagerly await every video drop and magazine delivery. Widespread skate progression could only move as quickly as the postal service.

But now open another window and search “#skateboarding.” Watch the messy live stream of your favorite pro doing NBD’s in his warehouse alongside Joe Schmoe in Texas doing something else you never thought possible alongside #fail videos of kids falling on shrink-wrapped skateboards in Walmart aisles. See skateboarding splayed out spread eagle before you in all its grotesque wonder, its stretch marks fully visible.

”So what are these content creators doing to attract such a following, and who in the fuck is following them anyway?”

For many of us, as skateboarding gets increasingly, unfathomably tech or gnar we retreat towards the more relateable, repeating phrases like “I’d rather watch Gino push than watch this dude do unfathomable flatground flip tricks.” Style over substance is the cliche. But because skateboarding is so much more than the way someone skateboards, style refers not only to the way someone’s back foot scoops a 360 flip on their skateboard, but also to how they exist when they’re off of it. Personality becomes paramount when the level of tricks creates a near-impossible barrier of entry.

It can be rightly argued that personality has always been a major factor in defining the who’s who of the professional ranks. Marketability matters. But what’s changed is the size of the space in which the more niche styles can be appreciated and consumed. Youtube and social media has created a more diverse and fragmented culture which can simultaneously contain both Todd Falcon and Grant Taylor, Andy Schrock and Julien Stranger. Like the universe, the Internet is ever-expanding and vast enough to contain all of skateboarding’s variants within its net.

Andy Schrock and his ilk are, like it or not, the agents of skateboarding’s disruption, using YouTube to find an audience on the outskirts of our community of outcasts. So what are these content creators doing to attract such a following, and who in the fuck is following them anyway?

Josh Katz, 360 flip. photo: Josh Charow

Josh Katz, 360 flip. photo: Josh Charow

Andy Schrock’s vlog tip video was uploaded by Josh Katz, another profitable Youtube skater who has over 234,000 subscribers and (probably) a far share of haters. His channel, started when he was only 10 and just learning to push, was one of the earliest “skateboard lifestyle” channels, and is marketed toward a younger audience – there’s no cussing or drinking, and Josh wears a helmet whenever he skates. When I asked Josh what appeal he thought his channel had to his subscribers he showed a level of self-awareness that hints at his professionalism:

“I think people liked watching me progress from video to video. While it’s cool to watch the best of the best skateboarding, the pros can seem inaccessible when you’re starting out. In comparison, I was learning tricks that were within reach for these kids and I was more engaged with all my viewers.”

Josh understands that it’s more important for him to be relatable and accessible than the best kid out. So while we would rather watch the newest Andrew Reynolds part, Josh’s subscribers would rather watch and interact with a skater they could see themselves hanging out with. These nice-guy tactics seem to work for the majority of the YouTube skate community.

BlackNinja, a decidedly edgy Youtube skater from Vegas with nearly 100,000 subscribers, is the third and final skater featured on Josh Katz’s “How to Make It Big” series. He takes Josh’s ideas about establishing a personality a bit further.

To BlackNinja, it’s not enough to just be relatable, it’s also necessary to create a consistent and outlandish character to associate with your channel. He describes the “Black Ninja” character of his channel as a huge exaggeration of himself. “I don’t care for VX footy,” he wrote me, “but Black Ninja HATES it. I’m not a fan of scooter riders hogging the park, but Black Ninja can’t stand them!!! It’s just a way to keep peoples attention and keep them interested.”

Andy Schrock, Josh Katz, Black Ninja, and a growing number of others use their outgoing personalities to make up for their varying skateboarding abilities, and what’s so wrong with that? Sure, these personality types may not appeal to everyone (especially you, oh loyal Jenkem reader), but there are hundreds of thousands of people watching these videos and, more shockingly, buying these products, so their effect on the skateboarding community is significant regardless of your opinion of them.

Most certainly their market is made up of young and naive kids not yet initiated into the “core” of skate culture – their historical awareness extending only as far back as Schrock’s first Day in the Life video – but they’re mostly skateboarders all the same. These are the alienated kids of Middle America, suburban sprawl skaters who find more in common with a kid learning stationary double-flips in his driveway than with Dill strongly slapping himself onto a curb in LA. The thing to remember is that these skaters grossly outnumber the kool kidz of Cali and NYC, and they should be reckoned with for sheer volume alone.

Youtube star, Josh Katz showing off his board in a video

Youtube star, Josh Katz showing off his board in a video

YouTube has proven itself as a disruptor of how we understand skateboarding, and its services are a permanent fixture on the skateboard economy. That leaves the aging skateboard purist with a dilemma: Do we continue to ignore the growing trend of obnoxious YouTube skate channels to focus on the aspects of modern skateboarding that we back (e.g. skater-owned brands with a minimalist aesthetic and skaters whose styles we like), or do we widen our parameters of what we consider “cool” in our culture and constructively engage with the more unpleasant niches popping up around us?

”In 2015, the global skateboard community may more closely resemble the kid that subscribes to Andy’s or BlackNinja’s channels than we’d like to admit.”

It’s worthwhile to consider that in 2015, the global skateboard community may more closely resemble the kid that subscribes to Andy’s or BlackNinja’s channels than we’d like to admit. The traditional image of a skate rat reared on repeat viewings of early Transworld videos is steadily shrinking. As 50 Cent once said, “hate it or love it, the underdogs on top.” Maybe the skate purist I speak of exists only in nostalgia, and this growing community of social media skaters is now the predominant face of our culture. Or maybe skateboarding is still young and flexible enough to be undefined.

In the (always better) words of Kyle Beachy: “skateboarding, is, if not bigger then at least broader than it has ever been. As the range finder zooms out you yourself start looking a little smaller, there’s more going on, and you watch the footage of this wide-frame shot and spot people wholly unlike yourself who love the thing too, even if they love differently than you do….”

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  1. Rumple4skin

    April 25, 2015 3:21 am

    I feel like the article is just bundling up a skater who watches youtube videos as one type of person although even between the few channels mentioned here each person has a unique personality. While I admit that Youtube has become the new frontier of skating (it’s hard to even call it ‘new’), I think this article is trying to distinguish between the channels where a user can get away with talking to and interacting with his/her channel (vlogging) as much as he/she skates vs the channels where you know you’re gonna get trick-based skateboarding like Thrasher, Ride Channel, & Metro (not really sure why these youtube channels weren’t worth mentioning in the article).

    The reason why vlogging works is because we (skaters) have had an easier time than ever getting access to crazy tricks (most of the time it doesn’t even require watching a full video part now that everyone will spoil their tricks on instagram). The problem with this is it doesn’t give the skater any personality.

    I can’t count how many videos I’ve watched where I’ll never remember who the skater was because they never focus on that aspect in their videos. I can also say I’ve seen some of the best skaters never really make it just because they aren’t finding the right opportunity to give themselves exposure. I applaud these dudes who have not only found a way to make money doing something they love without necessarily being a “pro” but also for promoting other skaters and creating a community where the deserving skaters can finally be seen by thousands. Even some pro skaters have acknowledged their awareness to these youtubers like Andy.

    I think Black Ninja introduced me to the idea of representing yourself as “character.” Whether you like it or not, we’ve already started to see that these vloggers are no longer just isolated to their own channels but they are making appearances on each others channels. I don’t think they knew what this was going to grow to when they started doing this but now they are getting the opportunity to really take skateboarding out of the hands of energy drink marketed contests and corporatized companies and I’m staying subscribed to see what happens next.

    • dingleberry

      April 25, 2015 8:22 am

      Can you really not watch *actual* GOOD skating and get a sense of personality? from chris milic to stevie williams, todd falcon to kirchart. You can almost imagine exactly who these people actually are and if you need some asshole talking into his slr about his new bearings to get that sense of personality then you must be shit at skating

    • Joseph

      April 25, 2015 10:53 am

      You know nothing

  2. mobdylan

    April 25, 2015 3:49 am

    excellent read. thx!

  3. chu

    April 25, 2015 4:18 am

    Great read jenkem. I always wonder if people remember that Corey Kennedy was “discovered” by winning a footage contest on the Berrics. I love the skater he’s become but when he hit the scene every body I skated with hated on him for being an internet skater. I feel like the YouTube guys are just an extension of that. Finding a roundabout way of making something of yourself in skateboarding.

    • Allen Losi's left nut

      May 13, 2015 10:24 am

      Cory sending his footage in for that bang yo self is not the same thing.
      With your logic every skater who has ever posted a video of themselves online is an “internet skater”

    • Eric Berra

      May 26, 2015 4:26 am

      cory is actually good on a skateboard. these guys suck ass big time, especially jew-nose shrock and helmet boy

  4. Andy Schrock

    April 25, 2015 5:14 am

    Even though this article is completely backwards, I don’t care, it’s just more views for my channel, more money for me.

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