April 24, 2015/ Christian Kerr/ ARTICLES/ Comments: 94


In the backlit screen of my computer, the cropped bust of a man, slightly stubbled, red crewneck collar showing beneath the undone buttons of his dress shirt, hovers above the text “How to Get Big on Youtube – AndrewSchrock.”

Press play and his spiel begins: “What’s up guys,” Andy exclaims (not asks) to the wayward viewer. “I’m here to give you tips on how to grow and get subscribers and views here on Youtube!” His advice in this realm should be respected, for he’s a rare example of someone who has managed to create a sustainable career video blogging. Video blogging about our favorite toy, the skateboard.

Andy Schrock’s YouTube channel has over 500,000 subscribers. That means more than half-a-million people get a notification every time Andy posts a video, something he does daily. It’s difficult to gauge exactly how much he, or any Youtube content creator, is making off of these videos – he was vague when pressed for dollar amounts, and YouTube’s partnership program through which ad revenue is shared between platform and person is notoriously convoluted – but a conservative estimate puts videos with a pre-roll advertisement quoted at making around $2 per every 1000 views.

So take the video “Assembling a New Skateboard – AndySchrock” as an example. As of this writing it has around 100,000 views, meaning that at the $2/1000 view rate Andy would pull in $200. That may not seem like much, but with daily uploads these numbers add up quickly. If Andy’s videos average around 60,000 views and he posts one every day, he’s made $840 that week off YouTube ads alone.

Andy Schrock, YouTube star.

Andy Schrock, YouTube star.

The line between the virtual and the tangible is as thin and porous as a sheet of MOB griptape. That video of Andy setting up a new skateboard also doubles as an extended advertisement for several hard goods companies he owns: ReVive decks, FORCE wheels, and AM Grip (synergy!).

Though Andy informed me through email that he isn’t “rich or anything,” he has managed to carve out a comfortable living (albeit in Cincinnati) for him and his family, an impressive feat for any independent business owner, especially one in today’s turbulent skateboarding economy. (If you’d rather measure “success” in sex instead of dollars then I even heard that his now wife and the mother of his child first approached Andy because she recognized him from YouTube, so his Internet fame’s gotten him laid at least once.)

This sort of conventionally un-cool success through Youtube will naturally infuriate skateboarding’s “core”. A thread on SLAP’s forum titled “Hate on Youtube pros” demonstrates exactly that. In it, one poster rhetorically asks if it’s even possible to be a YouTube skater and not be “a fucking massive kook.” To which he immediately answers, “I think not.” Another commenter comes to a disheartening conclusion: “It’s a crazy world we live in folks,” he writes, “while Alien Workshop closes shop, ReVive skateboards are selling out and running their own warehouse and skatepark.”

Andy filming for his YouTube channel.

Andy Schrock filming for his YouTube channel.

A Harvard professor of Business, Clayton Christensen, describes a disruptor as something that “displaces an existing market, industry, or technology and produces something new and more efficient and worthwhile. It is at once destructive and creative.” As new forms of exploiting sharing skateboarding surface through the Net, traditions are naturally upended. The old must make way for the new.

Beginner skaters have historically been initiated and educated by the generation of skaters that preceded them. These dinosaurs, found lurking at the local skate shop or troweling the neighborhood DIY, are the linkages to old 411VM tapes and half-remembered Big Brother interviews. They give historical context and a communal experience to skateboarding.

”Our compass, now a scrolling sidebar of suggested videos, feels as if it’s magnetized towards the commercialization of skateboarding.”

It’d be an understatement to say that the Internet’s changed this. These opinionated skate elders remain, but they’ve been overshadowed by our access to the infinite skateboard documentation available on YouTube. It’s easy to get lost in the options if you don’t know where to begin.

It’s as if we’ve been suddenly dropped into the ocean without a rudder, and our compass, now a scrolling sidebar of suggested videos, feels as if it’s magnetized towards the commercialization of skateboarding. Youtube, the great disruptor of our culture, must be analyzed and understood so that we can regain our bearings.

The most obvious effect YouTube has had on this new generation of skaters is an explosion of skill and an expansion of what is now considered possible on a skateboard. Progression is aided in great part through exposure. Unless you’re Rodney Mullen, tricks aren’t so much invented as they are mimicked and improved upon – done faster and higher, flipped into and out of.

In the past, physical locations have generally been the center of such progression — EMB, the World Industries Park, LOVE Park, MACBA – and if you lived far away from these hubs, you had to eagerly await every video drop and magazine delivery. Widespread skate progression could only move as quickly as the postal service.

But now open another window and search “#skateboarding.” Watch the messy live stream of your favorite pro doing NBD’s in his warehouse alongside Joe Schmoe in Texas doing something else you never thought possible alongside #fail videos of kids falling on shrink-wrapped skateboards in Walmart aisles. See skateboarding splayed out spread eagle before you in all its grotesque wonder, its stretch marks fully visible.

”So what are these content creators doing to attract such a following, and who in the fuck is following them anyway?”

For many of us, as skateboarding gets increasingly, unfathomably tech or gnar we retreat towards the more relateable, repeating phrases like “I’d rather watch Gino push than watch this dude do unfathomable flatground flip tricks.” Style over substance is the cliche. But because skateboarding is so much more than the way someone skateboards, style refers not only to the way someone’s back foot scoops a 360 flip on their skateboard, but also to how they exist when they’re off of it. Personality becomes paramount when the level of tricks creates a near-impossible barrier of entry.

It can be rightly argued that personality has always been a major factor in defining the who’s who of the professional ranks. Marketability matters. But what’s changed is the size of the space in which the more niche styles can be appreciated and consumed. Youtube and social media has created a more diverse and fragmented culture which can simultaneously contain both Todd Falcon and Grant Taylor, Andy Schrock and Julien Stranger. Like the universe, the Internet is ever-expanding and vast enough to contain all of skateboarding’s variants within its net.

Andy Schrock and his ilk are, like it or not, the agents of skateboarding’s disruption, using YouTube to find an audience on the outskirts of our community of outcasts. So what are these content creators doing to attract such a following, and who in the fuck is following them anyway?

Josh Katz, 360 flip. photo: Josh Charow

Josh Katz, 360 flip. photo: Josh Charow

Andy Schrock’s vlog tip video was uploaded by Josh Katz, another profitable Youtube skater who has over 234,000 subscribers and (probably) a far share of haters. His channel, started when he was only 10 and just learning to push, was one of the earliest “skateboard lifestyle” channels, and is marketed toward a younger audience – there’s no cussing or drinking, and Josh wears a helmet whenever he skates. When I asked Josh what appeal he thought his channel had to his subscribers he showed a level of self-awareness that hints at his professionalism:

“I think people liked watching me progress from video to video. While it’s cool to watch the best of the best skateboarding, the pros can seem inaccessible when you’re starting out. In comparison, I was learning tricks that were within reach for these kids and I was more engaged with all my viewers.”

Josh understands that it’s more important for him to be relatable and accessible than the best kid out. So while we would rather watch the newest Andrew Reynolds part, Josh’s subscribers would rather watch and interact with a skater they could see themselves hanging out with. These nice-guy tactics seem to work for the majority of the YouTube skate community.

BlackNinja, a decidedly edgy Youtube skater from Vegas with nearly 100,000 subscribers, is the third and final skater featured on Josh Katz’s “How to Make It Big” series. He takes Josh’s ideas about establishing a personality a bit further.

To BlackNinja, it’s not enough to just be relatable, it’s also necessary to create a consistent and outlandish character to associate with your channel. He describes the “Black Ninja” character of his channel as a huge exaggeration of himself. “I don’t care for VX footy,” he wrote me, “but Black Ninja HATES it. I’m not a fan of scooter riders hogging the park, but Black Ninja can’t stand them!!! It’s just a way to keep peoples attention and keep them interested.”

Andy Schrock, Josh Katz, Black Ninja, and a growing number of others use their outgoing personalities to make up for their varying skateboarding abilities, and what’s so wrong with that? Sure, these personality types may not appeal to everyone (especially you, oh loyal Jenkem reader), but there are hundreds of thousands of people watching these videos and, more shockingly, buying these products, so their effect on the skateboarding community is significant regardless of your opinion of them.

Most certainly their market is made up of young and naive kids not yet initiated into the “core” of skate culture – their historical awareness extending only as far back as Schrock’s first Day in the Life video – but they’re mostly skateboarders all the same. These are the alienated kids of Middle America, suburban sprawl skaters who find more in common with a kid learning stationary double-flips in his driveway than with Dill strongly slapping himself onto a curb in LA. The thing to remember is that these skaters grossly outnumber the kool kidz of Cali and NYC, and they should be reckoned with for sheer volume alone.

Youtube star, Josh Katz showing off his board in a video

Youtube star, Josh Katz showing off his board in a video

YouTube has proven itself as a disruptor of how we understand skateboarding, and its services are a permanent fixture on the skateboard economy. That leaves the aging skateboard purist with a dilemma: Do we continue to ignore the growing trend of obnoxious YouTube skate channels to focus on the aspects of modern skateboarding that we back (e.g. skater-owned brands with a minimalist aesthetic and skaters whose styles we like), or do we widen our parameters of what we consider “cool” in our culture and constructively engage with the more unpleasant niches popping up around us?

”In 2015, the global skateboard community may more closely resemble the kid that subscribes to Andy’s or BlackNinja’s channels than we’d like to admit.”

It’s worthwhile to consider that in 2015, the global skateboard community may more closely resemble the kid that subscribes to Andy’s or BlackNinja’s channels than we’d like to admit. The traditional image of a skate rat reared on repeat viewings of early Transworld videos is steadily shrinking. As 50 Cent once said, “hate it or love it, the underdogs on top.” Maybe the skate purist I speak of exists only in nostalgia, and this growing community of social media skaters is now the predominant face of our culture. Or maybe skateboarding is still young and flexible enough to be undefined.

In the (always better) words of Kyle Beachy: “skateboarding, is, if not bigger then at least broader than it has ever been. As the range finder zooms out you yourself start looking a little smaller, there’s more going on, and you watch the footage of this wide-frame shot and spot people wholly unlike yourself who love the thing too, even if they love differently than you do….”

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  1. Dave

    April 27, 2015 10:57 pm

    I think it deserved to be looked into and discussed. I’m on the fence about all of it, really.

    Youtube stars have been known to be exceptionally annoying. All the random cuts, the excited talking voice (HEY! What’s up guys?!) and the partial immaturity displayed in the majority of internet stars. However, I like to believe that a skater is a skater. We can obviously point out the ones that aren’t in it for the sake of skating and I can’t point it out in those guys. They do genuinely love it (I think) and they’re not bad at it either. Regardless from posting their personal life stuff and having the occasional rant, they do well at promoting their business to children, which we all know are extremely gullible. Lots of kids are brats and their parents will do just about anything to get them outta their faces for a little while and I know that they know that. Appealing to children for profit is evil to me but it works, no doubt. Staying pg and making things silly and acting like rascally goofballs helps kids relate and it’s no doubt extremely annoying to us and it’s immature.

    Now I’m not saying that maturity is a must. We all act stupid sometimes but the majority of it don’t post it on the internet for profit.

    It’s great that skateboarding is getting bigger but their approach isn’t what skateboarding needs. Skateboarding wasn’t meant to be pg. It’s great that they’re bringing kids into the community (shitty kids but they’ll grow up and learn) and getting them skating. They’re just doing their own thing and making money while they’re at it. Let them be them. Admittedly, I feel like they’re negatively affecting skateboarding with their PG approach. Like I said, I’m on the fence. I feel more negative about this then I do positive. I just wanna see how it all develops.

    • BornTooLate

      April 28, 2015 5:28 am

      Dude, I think that was the most levelheaded comment. I ‘m going to say it again however, Andy Shrock’s “3 seconds of footage, 1 and a half minute of ads/rambling” is making me puke.

  2. Taylor

    April 29, 2015 12:07 pm

    Right?! It’s the PG thing that gets me too. When I was coming up THE pinnacle social aspect of skateboarding was to break in with the older, more talented skaters in the local scene. It took going out to the local ledge spot and proving yourself not to be some kinda fuckin’ kook. You had to earn respect and work for your place in the scene. Above all it gave me one of strongest lessons I could carry into adulthood: that you gotta work for what you want and not kook it along the way. Fuck. I don’t get where these “Youtube pros” are trying to get at but to come up on some quick cash and cheap recognition. C’mon now…skating loses a part of what keeps it so special if you water it down like that. Keep it real, motherfuckers.

  3. jaydawg

    May 2, 2015 4:08 am

    thought i was the only one seeing this epidemic and been waiting for this for a long time people need to open thier eyes and see how seirious this kook shit is getting . its started to scare me real nigguz are outnumberd its like a bad nightmare

  4. D

    June 13, 2015 9:33 pm

    Pure awesomness. I love reading stuff like this because theres definitely a change in the culture, and even though we all think about it and see it, most of us are not sure what’s causing it. Every kid I knew that skated when I was coming up had some shitty home life, or was dysfunctional in some way, at least mainstream society would think so. I meet dudes all the time now that are just regular people, and skating purely as a form of athleticism, and I’m not hatin’, its rad. I’ve always liked how skating brings people from all walks of life together. I just had no idea where the kids that are no good, but are assholes come from. The ones that only do yo flips on flat, and land, kneeling down like they’re bombing a hill and come back up in slow motion looking at the ground. Get in their way and they freak out and throw their boards or scoff at you while you apologize with a smile. They’re like a combination of kerry getz and shane o’neill but without any talent.

    Anyways, this article did a great job of putting these changes into words. Enjoyed the read.